I saw this link a few days ago (Eating Honey & Pulling Down Pillars) and it’s the kind of crap I’ve been seeing from a section of Evangelicals for the last year and I’m finally to the point that I’m done. I’m angry and I don’t want to be but you are supposed to be the light of hope to the world, not this. I’m angry that you would even post such a thing. I don’t know if you simply need Trump to have some sort of leg to stand on for you to support him that you’re looking for Biblical characters he could remotely embody or if you really do believe this ridiculousness. Whatever the reason, you are using an article that is dismissing an inordinate amount of context and declaring it a good, logical source to support your views.
If you can continue to support a man like Donald Trump for whatever second-rate reason you can conjure up, I am not with you. In fact, I want to stand as opposite from you as possible. I stand with the people he’s oppressing through his words and the actions shown by how he lives and does business. The sad thing is that there are many evangelicals who love people and despise the message of Donald Trump but too many still find reasons to back him.
Apparently, some evangelicals would rather support Trump because he has conservative policies and overlook the fact of his demeaning nature and the way he treats people. At this current moment in the news we are seeing his treatment of women in particular come to the forefront. We could devote a series of blogs on his racist, homophobic, and misogynistic comments or shady business practices that prey on the poor, but let’s just look at his current treatment of women and this preposterous article.
In fact, let’s look at some of what Trump has said. (Language Warning)
“You know, it doesn’t really matter what [the media] write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.” — from an interview with Esquire, 1991
“If Hillary can’t satisfy her husband, what makes her think she can satisfy America.” Twitter April, 2015
Speaking of Carly Fiorina “Look at that face. Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next next president? I mean, she’s a woman, and I’m not supposed to say bad things, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious?”
In regard to Arianna Huffington “…unattractive both inside and out. I fully understand why her former husband left her for a man – he made a good decision.”
Then there is the now infamous Access Hollywood audio.
“I moved on her, and I failed. I’ll admit it,” Trump is heard saying. It was unclear when the events he was describing took place. The tape was recorded several months after he married his third wife, Melania.
“Whoa,” another voice said.
“I did try and f— her. She was married,” Trump says.
Trump continues: “And I moved on her very heavily. In fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said, ‘I’ll show you where they have some nice furniture.’”
“I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married,” Trump says. “Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony tits and everything. She’s totally changed her look.”
At that point in the audio, Trump and Bush appear to notice Arianne Zucker, the actress who is waiting to escort them into the soap-opera set.
“Your girl’s hot as s—, in the purple,” says Bush, who’s now a co-host of NBC’s “Today” show.
“Whoa!” Trump says. “Whoa!”
“I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her,” Trump says. “You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.”
“And when you’re a star, they let you do it,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”
“Whatever you want,” says another voice, apparently Bush’s.
“Grab them by the p—y,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”
I could go on and on but I’ll leave it there.
Help me out with this Evangelicals because I really have tried to comprehend your reasoning but I’m at a loss. You are going to tell me, and the world, that this is the quality of speech from a man who you would consider a leader. I’ve heard all the excuses but the latest article (link above) about Trump being Samson and being used by God is baffling. I won’t even address the lack of biblical support for this to even be possible. I would rather focus on the clear dismissal of the way Trump lives and speaks and how you validate his actions against women for you to even be remotely okay with God using him. Who is this God that would be actively using Trump? If that’s the God you believe in, we believe in different Gods. It’s damn near impossible for me to understand how you would ever support such a man. And just now, after his latest audio file has emerged, you seem to be grasping for anything, which saddens me because it reveals what you hold dear in your spirit and it isn’t the downtrodden- it’s your comfortable life. The love of your conservative values and the fear of losing some obscure “Christian freedom” has clouded your spirit.
By supporting Trump, not only are you dismissing the cries of the oppressed, you are validating his actions as acceptable. I don’t care if you say he’s a sinner or God uses even the most despicable people. Your support tells women, people of color, immigrants, the LGBTQ community, and many more that they don’t matter because Trump is your Republican, conservative leader.
Please, for the love of GOD, don’t tell me that God is using him to get a conservative person in office. GOD doesn’t support Trumps actions nor desire for a conservative or liberal or moderate to be in office. God is not a Republican. I’ve heard some say, “Well, I don’t agree with what he says but God will use him.” But even if you do believe that God will use him, it doesn’t condone your support.
This idea that God is using him to further the Kingdom is exactly the reason I was an atheist and hated the church. It’s one of the many reasons why many atheists don’t ever want anything to do with Christianity. If your god is a god that supports the ideas and speech of Trump – for whatever reason – I’m with my atheist friends, because I don’t believe in that god either. There is nothing in the ancient scriptures that I read that leads me to believe God would be remotely okay to make excuses so that I can support a man such as this.
Evangelicals let’s get real. You are reaching. This article, The Man Chosen by God: The Man Who Ate Honey, but Pulled Down Pillars states, “According to Scripture, the kings of ancient Babylon and Persia – Nebuchadnezzar and Cyrus – believed in God. One sinned mightily on numerous occasions; the other was “appointed” by God. Both served God’s purpose of preserving His people.”
Here’s a news flash for you evangelicals out there – You are not God’s people in this story. The Biblical author is speaking of the nation of Israel. If you really want to align characters in this story, Trump would be the leader of the people in power.
Trump is Nebuchadnezzar. Evangelicals are Babylon.
You are not the oppressed. You are the oppressors.
If trump had not pandered to the evangelical right the way he has leading up to this point and instead never mentioned Jesus, I would like to think that he would be getting no evangelical support right now. But then I think, “Well hell. Evangelicals should have been speaking out this entire time about Trumps words. Right?” Of course they should but they haven’t so why should the Access Hollywood audio be the difference. Honestly this isn’t the worst thing he’s said.
Evangelicals, it’s now more apparent than ever that you are so tied to holding on to your conservative values and “rights” that you will support a man like Trump who “protects Christian rights” than stand up for the people he wants and does oppress through his words and actions. It’s jarringly evident to me now that the only thing that truly matters to Evangelicals in this country is protecting “freedoms and values” they say are important or label as “biblical”.
Forget standing for and with the oppressed.
Forget the people who have the boot of the system on their neck that are protesting at Trump Rallies and getting punched and shoved with his approval.
Forget that he would rather incite violence than peace.
Forget the fact that Jesus stood and walked with those in the margins, not the men on high who abuse people through words, actions and power.
If you follow Jesus, you need to seriously dismiss the Gospel message in order to validate Trump.
Honestly, what the hell evangelicals? How did we get here?
We should desire for our kids to look up to our leaders and hopefully become a leader like them, but I want my kids to be the antithesis of Donald Trump. If you want him to be the leader of this country, and the person our young men and women should look up to, I ask that you read the transcripts of his words to your children. Share with them the quality of man that you make excuses for and have the audacity to use ancient scriptures as support. Share with him the racist comments and then teach them to love everyone. Read them the misogynistic statements and then try to back his words up with how you treat your wife. Allow them to read the words about immigrants and then ask your kids to still look at mexicans as people of value.
If you won’t, think about why you won’t. I would assume you would refrain because this isn’t the type of character you want your children to emulate.
If you can’t share his words with your children or have your children read transcripts of what he has said, why the hell do you want him leading?
I don’t want my kids aspiring to be like trump. Do you?
And you can make all the correlations between him and (___insert any biblical character here___) but it doesn’t work. You’re reaching. And by reaching you are telling every person stepped on by men like trump that their voice doesn’t matter because it was “destined by God to be this way”. Then this also tells the oppressed that God doesn’t give a damn about their cries because He is too busy getting Trump into office to continue preserving Christian values and the oppressed don’t fit in to the agenda.
This is appalling and looks nothing like Jesus. And please don’t give me the excuse that you are showing Trump grace. You can give grace without validating and/or supporting a person’s actions.
My honest thought is I don’t believe Christ stands with you on this one. I believe He is with the people Trump abuses.
In my opinion, you are on the wrong side and you need to move.
I don’t want to be associated with you, evangelicals, to the extent that I remove myself completely from what you represent – a fabricated version of Christianity. Your actions and validations of this man are so tragic and appalling that what I really would like to do is distance myself completely from the label “Christian” and “Evangelical” for the time being but I’m not. Instead, I will speak out against this terrible version of Christianity you are representing and apologize to people for the pain it has caused. You have sparked a passion in me to want to be present for the people who have been hurt by the church and Christians like I was in the past by sharing my story with them and letting them know that this isn’t the faith I and many others follow. For far too long I’ve let my anger with the church push me away. It was anger that has driven my passion for things to change in the Christian faith but I don’t want to be angry any longer. Instead I will use my anger to fuel the fire that burns to create change from within the Christian faith tradition. But, just because I love Jesus too damn much to walk away from this faith doesn’t mean I won’t fight for change in the church. I would rather now speak out and fight for American Christianity to change to look more like the loving peaceful gospel of Christ. I’ll just be the weird white guy who loves people and desires to walk with the oppressed in hopes that I may be part of the revolution of change in this country.
Grace and Peace.